Question:
How exactly is money created out of 'thin air'?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
How exactly is money created out of 'thin air'?
Ten answers:
The Violator!
2009-12-20 12:35:28 UTC
1. By making fiat money - money not backed by assets.



2. By extending that principle to making money 'on demand', by creating credit at the point people apply for it (in terms of loans, overdrafts, mortgages etc.).



I think our PhD friend may have made a tiny error or two... :-)



Try these videos, which are excellent and explain it simply but thoroughly.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sanOXoWl0kc&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTv1fo6sKmo&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qicabStQkc&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kpSbkaD4tM&feature=related



If you understand the role of the money supply, it becomes obvious that the current economic problems could not possibly have been an accident, even worse they show that the policies of the Fed, which caused the problem, will make it worse for the future... who'll gain? The MASTER BANKERS at the top of the tree (and who control the Fed and Bank of England) - because our bail out means they get our wealth (cars, land, houses, factories), while we get their DEBT!
casimir2121
2009-12-20 14:33:01 UTC
Hi,



The violator has some great links for you to see...



I usually do not like to go after an answer from someone but the fact that Mr. Rasmussen worked at the treasury is the greatest example of how we are all being lead to servitude by either the stupidity of such individuals or by their unscrupulous behavior of selling us, like his answer, complete BS. Indeed debt is only a positive when you dont have to pay it back! Earth to Rasmussen...tax payers pay back the interest, let alone the debt itself, that as a society we borrow to artificially accelerate our consumer lifestyle. Even though that is potentially harmfull it is not necessarily criminal, what is criminal is that who we borrow from is not our own government but rather a private bank that has not a fraction of the money it lends us!



The core problem is that the system itself IS monopoly money! It is a way to spur growth so that big corporations and businesses can accumulate wealth faster while we pay it back with our livlyhoods...of course we contribute to the process by accepting debt they want to hand us so we can have tvs and stuff we dont need or could not afford. These artificial bubbles then burst once in a while leading most of the middle class to the poor house in the process. The politicians spend money the Fed magically creates out of no where. Dems spend it on social programs to be popular, even though for every penny given is a penny taken away in inflation. The Repubs take the Fed money and contract it out to their corporate buddies in the Military Industrial Complex. Now both parties are essentially identical that they are the middle men in a real money laundering operation...our real money in time and goods produced paid to crooks at the private Federal bank that lent us nothing in the first place!



The result of both is that you and I pay back, with our labor and time, taxes that cover the interest on this money the Govt borrows from the Fed. Keep in mind the Govt does not even control its own money, let alone the fact that the money borrowed is literally created by the Fed out of no where! It is made up. We pay back interest on money our govt borrows that is made up. It is the greatest scam of all time. The politicians are silent because they get to stay in power while the game continues.



Both parties are puppets to the Industrial and Banking coporate interests that run the currency and hold the sovereignty of the nation in its fist.



Obama is spending because he knows that at some point we are just going to default on all our debts. The goal of the corporate masters is to re-boot under a global system they control. Why do you think all the countries that resist their sway are part of the "Evil' countries...Russia, Iran, NK. This is beyond your question but this economic system is no system..it is a pyramid scheme of the highest order! Currently every dollar is a debt...a debt to an entity that does not even have the value to begin with.



How on earth that is beneficial to the sovereignty of the American people and the constitution is beyond even the Goebbels-like propoganda of folks like Mr. Rasmussen!
2009-12-20 12:51:37 UTC
Actually, one point of currency creation is at the level of the banks themselves. These days it all happens in a computer.



Banks are able to legally issue more in loans than they hold in deposits (i.e. giving you money they don't really have).



It's called 'fractional reserve lending.'



The moment a bank issues a loan of this type, it has essentially created money out of thin air.
Myotherbumpersticker
2009-12-20 04:03:06 UTC
Basically you have on one hand 'sound money', which is backed with a solid like gold. It is relative to wealth creation. For this you need a production based economy rather than a service based economy. On the other you have 'fiat money', which is debt created by banks and the federal reserve. It has no backing. It is based on the idea that future generations will created the wealth in the future. The banks have a thing called 'fractional reserve' which allows them to loan out more money that what they have. And then the banks collapse, the government bail them out by printing more money which lowers the value of a dollar which is called 'inflation'.

Granted, it takes a while to learn this. In school they probably just taught you 'Keynesian Economics' which was meant as a temporary solution to save Capitalism during or just after WW1 when things looked bad. But politicians noticed they get richer from this form of economics. If ya bored I'd recommend read stuff by Thomas Sowell and Peter Schiff as they are rather easy to understand economists.
2009-12-20 02:50:49 UTC
simplistically it is printed

a dollar is worth a dollar because people believe it is

and that's all you need
End The Fed!!!
2009-12-21 08:04:28 UTC
A couple great answers here. I'm not sure if I have time to respond to Eric Rasmussen's whole answer here, but, for now....



@Eric: No one argues the necessity if currency in a society. The main argument is how it is used, what ensures it maintains value, and who controls it. And you mention that currency was started in Greece. But, didn't banking begin in Italy? Wasn't it the Italians in Florence who began the notion of a depository institution? After all, the word "Bank" is derived from the Italian word for "bench", where the first banking transaction occurred.



When I have time, I'll respond more....



And keep in mind, Bernanke taught economics at Harvard for many years and his Keynesian philosophy is obviously flawed. You may have a great grasp on the system, but it doesn't change the fact that fiat currency is a great vehicle bringing even the greatest nation to their knees.

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_04/greene032104.html
verasun88
2009-12-21 07:26:20 UTC
There is a very interesting institution in America - Federal Reserved Fund with the help of which authorities create money of thin air.

another interesting thing here - debts people have to pay (to banks mostly including the percent (the interest rate).

I would recommend you to watch a documentary "Spirit of the time". It is a German-American film about how our authorities make us suckers earning money on us. In German the film is called "Zeitgeist". Watch it and you'll get all the answers to your question.
2009-12-20 23:12:14 UTC
A guy hands me a bag of gold nuggets. He says "Take care of this for me till I get back."

And I say "Okay."

And then this other guy shows up. He says "Give me some money. I need it bad."

And so I give the second guy the gold the first guy left with me.

They both posses the same amount of gold now. They don't know that, but I do. But who cares? You see me here. I am whistling to myself. It's a nice day. The birds are singing. I'm hoping that the 1st guy won't get back before the 2nd guy is through using the money....

You might notice that I've doubled the amount of money in the system. But you and I are friends. As long as you and I know and nobody panics, everything will be just fine.
J
2009-12-20 05:23:38 UTC
Governments can create money by printing more.



Companies can create money by using questionable accounting methods. Mark-to-market accounting sometimes uses Over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives to establish a price. Some call this Enron accounting.
Joe S
2009-12-21 06:36:05 UTC
It's not. I've been entertaining a lengthy debate over at mises.org here [1]. Knowing that you also read this site, I'll respond to this statement as pertaining to the Austrian position.



If you read Mises, you will find that credit expansion always seems to be a government policy to him [2]. This suggests that he is ignorant of the actual financial mechanisms that go into loans. When a bank extends a loan, it always does so on the basis that the borrower has some valuable asset to place as security against the potential for non-performance.



It is true that money is created when a loan is extended. Suppose that you take out a mortgage for $100K to build a home. The bank places your loan as an asset on its balance sheet. The total of deposits in the banking system also increase by a total of $100K. These deposits are held by the people you pay to build your home.



Was this money created out of thin air? In one sense, yes. It was created by a book entry. However, it also corresponded with productive work - the building of your home. I argue that the circulation of credit is not necessarily to create money 'out of thin air'. Those who argue so look only at the total of demand deposits to cash reserves. Seeing fewer cash reserves than deposits, they deem this a "fractional bank reserve" and usually charge it is fraudulent. It is very hard to get them to acknowledge the loan portion of a bank's balance sheet let alone admit that it is relevant backing for the deposits.



I will admit though that some money creation truly does appear more 'out of thin air'. Some lending practices (mostly encouraged by the government with implicit and often explicit promises of backing bad loans) act to give loans to anyone with a pulse regardless of actual ability to pay. Recent credit practices do seem to have popped money out of thin air, so to speak. The market is displaying the need to make that money evaporate since many of those debts are unpayable. But of course, the government is making every effort to avoid that outcome. Too many people are duped into thinking that it's for the benefit of the little guy and keeping his home. But it's all about protecting banks that would (and should!) be insolvent. But I digress.



It is also an act of creation out of thin air when an institution creates a bond (which is really just the same thing as charging up your credit card). When the federal government does this, it often uses the bonds to attempt to avoid the consequences of bad credit practices. On one side, the market is trying to destroy money (which would damage some wealthy, influential interests). On the other, the government is pumping new money (mostly via the monetization of Treasury bonds at the federal reserve) to keep the banks solvent.



Austrians point to fractional reserves as the culprit for the business cycle. I do think that the business cycle is partially caused by monetary policy and is largely connected to inflation. But it is mostly pointed at the interventions of government to avoid prior bad policies (plus some consideration for some natural cyclical societal trends). Wealth is redistributed when the little guy is foreclosed upon while the bank (which should have shared in the outcome of the bad debt) is protected.



A gold standard would do nothing to correct malinvestment if bad credit practices were still protected. Malinvestment would simply be manifest in another way. Austrians are mistaken on these points though I still find the general framework of Austrian thinking to be way above any other economic school of which I'm aware.



ADDITION: By the way, here [3] is an interesting time series from the Federal Reserve. The only difference between the system that we have and a gold standard is in regard to what is base money. In a gold standard, metal had to be mined from the ground. It was then minted into coins, bullion or other forms of convention (often - usually or always? - stipulated by a governmental entity).



The majority of money creation, under our current system that is convertible only into Federal Reserve notes AND under a gold standard, is in the form of credit. It's worth noting that the printing of paper currency (and coining in non-precious metal) has been at a relatively stable pace. [The rate is revealed to be even more stable on a logarithmic scale - an optional setting at the stlouisfed site.] I think that this observation should take the wind out of the sails of the hard money folks if they understand anything about credit creation.



One last note: it is interesting that the rate of currency printing drastically picked up over the last year. I don't think that this is coincidental. Here, I part strongly with the opinion of our PhD economist friend. Far from inflationary, I believe that the Treasury and the Federal Reserve are fighting strong deflationary headwinds. A great deal of debt in our system is at the verge of being unpayable at current rates and would be entirely out of the question if rates rise. I don't have a ready source for this, but I recall reading that the Treasury is issuing bonds at increasingly short durations. People won't buy them longer. Therefore, even our federal government is facing potential refinancing problems.



When debts are written off, they first reduce excess bank reserves. Shareholders are next in line and then further down the list until, in theory, depositors lose a portion of their funds. In reality, of course, the FDIC system steps in to make the depositors whole and to wind all other debts up in an orderly fashion. If you pay attention to recent bank closings [4], banks are often revealing assets worth only half of what they claimed on their balance sheets. This is revealing huge asset deflation. So far, the system has managed to avoid deflation on a general level. But the cost has been to strain the balance sheets of the Federal Reserve and of the U.S. Treasury.



Some people don't realize that the Fed and the Treasury can go insolvent and default on their debts. They can. And if they do, poof goes the US dollar. The Federal Reserve has been monetizing Treasury bond issuance. Those bonds must be serviced mostly out of tax receipts. And when an increasing part of your population is out of work [5], it's hard to raise tax revenues - raising the tax rate on zero is still zero!



To draw this back to the point on hand, money is not exactly created out of thin air in the fundamental workings of lending. But when you are issuing credit to people with no prospects of repaying (even if, in our case, you are shoving a great deal of it up to the federal government), you have to write it off eventually. Money so created could be said to have been created out of thin air to the extent that the wealth does not currently exist to back it, nor is it conceivable that it can be created during the duration of the loan. It is not a fundamental element of credit creation, only of the unimaginably bad credit practices we have entered upon and refuse to recognize.



We are headed to massive deflation. The accelerated rate of BASE MONEY printing by the Treasury suggests to me that the monetary authorities know it. They are fighting it, but they will fail. They will fail because they are responding to a debt crisis with MORE DEBT.



They're either stupid or desperate.


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